Erik Lehnsherr (
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text; un: e. lehnsherr
[Erik cares little for the voting process or who was chosen to lead. What he does care about is how that decision will effect him. The environment. The natives, people who he feels an odd and detached sort of likeness to. He understands all too well what it’s like to be crowded into a small space and forced to live in fear for being ‘different’.]
Congratulations to our new leader.
I’m sure he’ll treat everyone fairly and equally.
I understand the need to feel separate from this world but there can’t be an us and them, the natives. It’s us and them, the monsters who feed on sound.
Many of us have abilities. Powers that are useful. There are natives that do as well. If we band together, we can keep ourselves safe. All of us.
[He wants to make his motives clear. He wants to survive. To get back home where he has unfinished business.]
I’m compiling all the information gathered here and there will be three different sections. Public, private, and what you can help with rather than abilities.
Do not respond to this post if you do not have anything useful to add. If you do not want to take the risk of others in the community knowing your skills, don't add them or make them private.
[ooc: Please comment Here. This post has been edited to make more sense. The mods have given me permission to make it so that when the final post is ready and I put it up, characters can only access it if they've asked for and been given permission; even the public part of the post.]
Congratulations to our new leader.
I’m sure he’ll treat everyone fairly and equally.
I understand the need to feel separate from this world but there can’t be an us and them, the natives. It’s us and them, the monsters who feed on sound.
Many of us have abilities. Powers that are useful. There are natives that do as well. If we band together, we can keep ourselves safe. All of us.
[He wants to make his motives clear. He wants to survive. To get back home where he has unfinished business.]
I’m compiling all the information gathered here and there will be three different sections. Public, private, and what you can help with rather than abilities.
Do not respond to this post if you do not have anything useful to add. If you do not want to take the risk of others in the community knowing your skills, don't add them or make them private.
[ooc: Please comment Here. This post has been edited to make more sense. The mods have given me permission to make it so that when the final post is ready and I put it up, characters can only access it if they've asked for and been given permission; even the public part of the post.]
un: klapbak
how do we even know YOU don't want to take advantage of people with abilities?
(Eddie is waaay too close to someone who was threatened and hunted and lost people for this very thing. It rubs him the wrong way.)
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The mark on my arm is proof of how well I know of what people do to others that are different.
Having a list in case something happens is useful.
Those that put it out in the open are aware of the risks.
Those that keep it private will not be outed by me.
I’ve been upfront about that.
I want to go home. So I have to survive this place.
We’ll help each other.
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you're making it public knowledge that there are still people who are being private about their powers
how is that not going to cause problems
secrets make people be suspicious and being suspicious makes bad people be violent and why wouldn't they start harassing you and the public people about things to try and find out about who is being private and about what?
that's like going hey someone has a bomb here
and someone else going "who?"
and you're like someone but i can't tell
and suddenly you have a bunch of people freaking because they know someone has a bomb but since they don't know who they start getting antsy and angry
it's like
obvious how bad an idea this is
not saying theres not advantages but like
ripple effect is a thing???
and you can't promise you won't accidentally out people or assume like. there's people here who could make you. you're not god. you can't give a 100% guarantee about anyones safety. no one can.
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There are people who haven't hidden their abilities.
Why do you think that anyone would assume that those are the only ones.
Everyone knows that there are people being private about their abilities.
And I've already stated that I don't care if they come to me.
The others know the risk.
There are always going to be people looking to take advantage.
To force others.
I disagree with you. I've made the changes necessary.
I never said I could guarantee anyone's safety, only that I would try.
It's pointless to sit here and do nothing. We'll all die that way.
If you don't want to prepare and be organized, that's your decision.
I'm not going to argue with you. If you want to help. If you want to take this idea and make it better, then do so.
If all you want to do is run your mouth, don't come back.
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thats not true. before i came to this sorta place, i didnt even know people with abilities was possible.
just because I'm not doing what YOU'RE doing doesn't mean i'm sitting here and doing nothing? theres more ways to help this situation than just ONE way.
yeah. so why make it easier for people to do that.
If people didn't ever run their mouths than problems in places of power would never change
it's because people protest things they dont agree with that people become better
i'm not ever gonna sit down and shut up if im worried about other people. im not arguing. im trying to reason. maybe you wont change your mind but theres nothing wrong with learning to understand better about what other people are afraid about
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My post wasn't the first you've been introduced to the idea.
Yes, and we should all be doing something.
Then why didn't you approach me that way in the first place?
If you were so interested in understanding and making the situation better.
You began with accusations.
I don't waste my time on pettiness.
There have already been adjustments made. If you still disagree, after you've read them, then we can discuss that.
Otherwise, we're done.
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it wasn't a you specifically thing. it's a i don't like the idea of people taking advantage specifically thing.
I'm not being petty. I care about my friends well being and nothing about that has anything to do with being petty.
I'm not trying to be difficult to fight with you just cause im bored. it scares me shitless to speak up against adults but i know sometimes you need to.
I guess they're okay
can i at least ask how i know you'll definitely keep the private people private? do you promise
(It's childish, maybe, but he's twelve and sometimes he functions on basic principals. He's...not really cooled down, but he feels bitter and complacent at least now. Which is an improvement? Kind of?)
private;
private;
You're not the first person with powers I've met who says this kinda stuff is dangerous.
It's not okay if it could lead to you getting hurt, Jake.
(You can practically hear his tone through the text.)
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Pitching ideas doesn't hurt, and it's not all bad. A contact list for who can help in an emergency could connect a lot of people who need someone to call when there's no 911. You don't have to fight about it for my sake.
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wow okay. It’s not a fully bad idea In theory but it was executed fucking stupidly and he’s being an asshole to people about it.
Whatever. Thanks for the lecture 👌
(This was the first time he realized maybe text could convey tone after all. Maybe the worst part of this all was how scared he was of adults and that it felt a whole lot like Jake siding with this guy after Eddie had tried to defend him. And it was some random adult too.
Granted, Eddie was feeling an onslaught of emotions and could get emotional quicker than most. If his reaction was childish and icy- well. He was only twelve. And it felt weirdly personal.)
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Jake would wager both sides of the argument are doing a bang up job being assholes right now... but he's not about to say that to Eddie, who was only concerned about the best of intentions leading to more bitten asses. Sigh. Our intrepid psychic commodity is tired.]
I'm not disagreeing with you--I don't like being thought of as different, either. You and Max are looking out for people like me, right? I know. And it means a lot, Eddie.
I just don't want you to get upset because of him. Because of me.
[Head clear. Mouth shut. See much. Say little. It's the stance Jake's chosen to take on this venture for now, a lesson he's sure he's heard somewhere before.]
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Frankly, he's pretty tired too. He takes a lot more care in this response than his previous one though, typing it with a stressed care to make sure he worded things right.)
I like you because you're different, Jake. And that has literally nothing to do with your powers. If you think I wouldn't get as worked up if I saw someone threatening some other aspect about you, then you're a bigger idiot than everyone else here. This isn't about your powers. It's about the fact that you're my friend and I was scared.
(And that, he felt, was important to stress. His power was a part of Jake. But Jake as a whole...That's what mattered.)
i'm upset because of like 15 different things right now.
(..........Yeeeeeeeah Eddie did not operate like that at all. Though Jake's calmness was helping calm him down in turn.)
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And I'd do the same for you. That's what friends do. I'll be careful, I promise.
But he's right, too. We have to work together. If he has powers, too, and he and others are willing to use them and help even a little bit, that's good for all of us.
[Being short with people might just be the least worrying thing about the Erik Lehnsherrs of the multiverse, all things considered...]
Anything I can do?
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right. thats what friends do. which is why you're defending him to me.
(Instead of the other way around. Real solidarity there. Maybe it was childish, certainly, but it also felt bad feeling like Jake was going out of his way to defend Erik, but doing nothing to defend Eddie. He mostly just felt chastised.)
no.
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[So says Switzerland.]
What's really eating you?
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i hope for your sake and everyone else's he's a good man with a shitty personality but good intentions.
it doesn't matter.
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I didn't say I trusted him, just that I didn't think what he said was a threat the same way. That's all. I wasn't trying to gang up on you.
Come on, tell me.
[He could always pull it out of Eddie's head himself, but he'd rather Eddie told him once he's calmed down some.]
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okay.
i dont want to tell you right now.
(Not when he was feeling rather sour.)
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Okay. Are we okay?
Later, then.
[And you better believe he'll be following up when they're back at the house together. He knows where you sleep.]
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No. You made me feel stupid for defending you and like I did something bad or overreacted. Like what. You think I need to be told we need to work together?? Jeez. I'm not an idiot.
all I'm saying is it's sketchy to trust a singular guy. even if that guy is SUPER NICE with GREAT INTENTIONS. Listen. I know people who can make people do anything they want. What happens if, because this moron publicly made it clear who he is and what he's doing, some asshole with that ability came and used this guy to find out all the people who have powers INCLUDING the private ones? and don't call me paranoid. im not paranoid. i know a man exists like that here.
I dont have powers Jake. I can't protect you from anything. I can't even fucking throw a punch for Christs sake
(At least Eddie...doesn't lie.
UH YEAH HE CAN BLOCK THE DOOR.)
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No, you're not an idiot. Just hot-tempered when you have something on your mind.
[Hint, hint.]
I'm sorry if I made you feel like I didn't want you sticking up for me--it's not that. I like that you care so much. It's one of the things I like best about you. But people have been talking over each other on the network for days and I didn't want you to get sucked into it, too.
You're talking about that Kilgrave guy. Yeah, I heard about him. But the way I see it, the contacts will have be to passed around either way so people will know where to look for the list. That's the risk people who put themselves out there will have to take. If it comes down to being afraid a couple of us are going to screw things up or believing it could work, I'd rather take the chance and try, you know?
I've been afraid of seeing monsters everywhere I go and I hate that feeling. I just don't want us to get so paranoid of each other we miss chances to build on ideas like this. We're all we've got.
And that means you, too. You're important. You're the best friend I've made here. Let's not fight, okay?
[Please don't make him learn telekinesis just to unblock your door.]
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Eddie knows he has to respond, so he neatly but hastily scraps himself back together into an oriented state of mind. God. No one ever...Eddie was far too used to being told his emotions were too much all of the time. That boys shouldn't be like that, that he needed to calm down. Which sometimes he definitely did. But sometimes he was only worked up because he was genuinely upset about something, and no one liked their genuine upset to be dismissed.
And Eddie didn't really feel dismissed at all. Before he had, certainly, but with this reply? No.
The funny thing was he had never once stopped to think that Jake was afraid of monsters too. Jake just seemed so much bigger and braver than Eddie himself. Jake gets nightmares too. He knew Jake had fears himself, but to think that the Sound Eaters had been haunting him... Eddie felt like IT was such an immense fear in his life, so dominating that he didn't really feel as scared of other monsters...There was a lot to address.)
A lot happened all at once. When you have people getting into places of power and then people asking that people come forward to register it's gonna work up a lot of people. I don't think anyone can be that surprised.
I'm sorry, Jake. I swear it's not that I don't agree with you. It's not as simple for me as it is for you. You make my fear of that seem small and silly in comparison, but I'm
Adults are the worst monsters I've ever known. Worse than IT. Worse than Sound Eaters. It's a lot harder for me to casually accept that kind of thing. I'm used to relying on myself and my friends. We've talked about a lot of things but I guess we've never really talked about that. So that's not your fault.
But I like that a lot about you. I know I'm scared...but I like that you want to try and help other people even if there are risks. You're so good.
I'm sorry though. I never thought you'd be scared of them and I don't know why. If it makes you feel safer to do this, then I understand. I'm not sorry I yelled at this guy for your sake, but I'm sorry I didn't consider your feelings more.
You're important too. Really important, and you're one of my best friends ever too.
We're okay. I'm not mad anymore.
(Yeah no blockade to worry about anymore. Moment Jake's home he's gonna get an armful of Eddie Kaspbrak thrown on him. It's gonna be a sleepover night, buddy.)
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There are threats everywhere. If he approached everyone and everything with that fear riding shotgun, he'd never get out of bed again.
Granted, some mornings are more tempting than others. He's still only eleven, no matter how desperate he is to deserve what Roland had bestowed on him. Gunslinger.]
I think he knows that better than anyone.
I get it. You grew up seeing the worst sides of people. It's easy to stop trying after a while But you're not in that place anymore. You can trust your friends and still want to think giving someone a chance won't go badly every time. You met Clara, didn't you? And I met Roland. Majima looks like he walked out of a gangster movie, but he seems all right. We have an actual Supergirl who flies around. There's a woman building a safe house just for the kids. We've met some cool people, haven't we?
[Good or not, but he knows he'd like to help Eddie figure out a way to trust people again, too.]
You don't have to apologize to me.
I'll see you later, then?